Don't forget that the McLaren is one of the worst cars aerodynamically - maybe even the worst. That needs to be factored in - a better comparison would be Sainz vs Kimi.Juzh wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 14:12rai vs alo quali lap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr6CiDKN5TA
Going by frames, despite alonso having MUCH better exits he still lost around 1.1s on the main straight, back straight and out of the hairpin going up to spoon. I'd say the renault engine is probably around 1.2-1.5s off the pace here.
Judging by speed trap data this does not seem to be the case this weekend. Renault is slower than mclaren at all measuring pointsGrandAxe wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 14:17Don't forget that the McLaren is one of the worst cars aerodynamically - maybe even the worst. That needs to be factored in - a better comparison would be Sainz vs Kimi.Juzh wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 14:12rai vs alo quali lap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr6CiDKN5TA
Going by frames, despite alonso having MUCH better exits he still lost around 1.1s on the main straight, back straight and out of the hairpin going up to spoon. I'd say the renault engine is probably around 1.2-1.5s off the pace here.
You mean Ferrari like?
the smoke appeared when he exited the pitlane in Q3 I think. In FP3 he bottomed out heavily going into chicane. THere is clip in highlights.GPR -A wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 16:04You mean Ferrari like?
On Sky they were saying that the floor was bottaming out quite heavily and the smoke was the result of that. I would think another FIA sensor coming to Mercedes, to measure the smoke may be, if not a dual battery?
Doesn't look stoked lol
Today says he's not even as good as Bottas, Hulkenberg and Stroll. Wow performance.siskue2005 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 08:51Other than monza 2008, which other decent race has he pulled off in wet?GrandAxe wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 12:12You never can tell with Vettel, he has put in some decent wet times in the past (notably with Toro Rosso), his problems this year only seem to stem from ebbing confidence against an unrelenting competitor.
Kimi on the other hand has always been a dud in the wet, so his case is sealed.
Of course, all of the above will only be useful if it rains.
Nobody is saying he is poor in wet, just that he is not as good as Schumacher, senna or Lewis in wet
You can easily see less downforce on the McLaren too. The vicious circle of having a weaker engine. Dropping downforce to be able to take on racing conditions..Juzh wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 14:12rai vs alo quali lap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DlTe-c9Gls
Going by frames, despite alonso having MUCH better exits he still lost around 1.1s on the main straight, back straight and out of the hairpin going up to spoon. I'd say the renault engine is probably around 1.2-1.5s off the pace here.
Hamitlon touches the curbs in a smarter way: when car is going straight and unloaded and with two wheels at a time. (degner two outside). And he obviously avoided the curbs in the high speed (spoon).Shrieker wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 17:13No one has posted the onboard pole lap ? Blasphemy !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoCca4kUTf4
A. Davidson says touching the kerbs were Ferrari's bane, but Hamilton does touch them plenty on his fastest lap as well. He shies away from them at spoon tho. Maaaybe another difference is, couple of times when he gets on the exit kerbs (most notably out of Degner 2), he is a little less aggressive on the throttle compared to Vettel. So it's hard to say I agree with Davidson there.