The changes last year weren’t to help “1” team, were based on safety... Yes, it seems one team has got a better understanding than the rest, but this has been part of Formula 1 always... Whether it is finding loop holes in the regulations, maximizing changes or managing the tires, the team that does it best is the team that dominates... People is just upset because Mercedes really has their act together and are the ones once again dominating... This is not Pirelli’s fault.Polite wrote:This is true but when it comes to 9 teams have bad tyres menagement, and only 1 is smart.. its no more sport.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 15:53This is a Technical Formula, with the tires been just one more component for the teams to maximize if they want success... The fact that some may have done a better job in dealing with the tires than others isn’t Pirelli’s fault... They are all using the same tires, same compounds and have had access to the same data from testing... It’s up to the teams to figure it out.LM10 wrote:Guenther, last time you were in this press conference you talked about the need to unlock the potential of Pirelli’s tyres. What solutions have you found in the last couple of races?
This just sums up the horrible work Pirelli has done. Thousands of kilometers have been done already, months of learning time passed, but there still is just a big fat question mark when it comes to tyres. There is no bigger limiting factor. Cars just don't show their true potential because of that.
Just a single team which understands the tyres. Is this the F1 championship we want to see? Let's call it Pirelli championship, really.
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Marko said it. Only one team last year had an issue with tyres and Pirelli helped them. So last year we had 1 team in bad shape and we got the 4mm less compund. This year 9 of 10 teams have issues but ``tyres are the same for all``.
dont u think Pirelli has to answer both years in the same way?
also AMUS talks about
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... -mercedes/
Sorry man, but i cant find any safety issue last year. Only one team got blistering.. and blisters is not a safety issue. Just pit and change to new tyres. Safety issue comes when tyres explode without any warnings, like Micheline in USA many years ago.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 16:41The changes last year weren’t to help “1” team, were based on safety... Yes, it seems one team has got a better understanding than the rest, but this has been part of Formula 1 always... Whether it is finding loop holes in the regulations, maximizing changes or managing the tires, the team that does it best is the team that dominates... People is just upset because Mercedes really has their act together and are the ones once again dominating... This is not Pirelli’s fault.Polite wrote:This is true but when it comes to 9 teams have bad tyres menagement, and only 1 is smart.. its no more sport.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 15:53
This is a Technical Formula, with the tires been just one more component for the teams to maximize if they want success... The fact that some may have done a better job in dealing with the tires than others isn’t Pirelli’s fault... They are all using the same tires, same compounds and have had access to the same data from testing... It’s up to the teams to figure it out.
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Marko said it. Only one team last year had an issue with tyres and Pirelli helped them. So last year we had 1 team in bad shape and we got the 4mm less compund. This year 9 of 10 teams have issues but ``tyres are the same for all``.
dont u think Pirelli has to answer both years in the same way?
also AMUS talks about
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... -mercedes/
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Facts? Would love some... Do you have any to support that it was Mercedes who asked for the change? Or where there several teams asking for it?Bill wrote:Mercedes asked for tyres to be changed even their engineers acknowledged that why can't people take facts for what they are. Why try to to sell this lie that Mercedes did a better job
Don’t forget Spa... Was it 2017 or 2016 where we had tires blowing up?Polite wrote:Sorry man, but i cant find any safety issue last year. Only one team got blistering.. and blisters is not a safety issue. Just pit and change to new tyres. Safety issue comes when tyres explode without any warnings, like Micheline in USA many years ago.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 16:41The changes last year weren’t to help “1” team, were based on safety... Yes, it seems one team has got a better understanding than the rest, but this has been part of Formula 1 always... Whether it is finding loop holes in the regulations, maximizing changes or managing the tires, the team that does it best is the team that dominates... People is just upset because Mercedes really has their act together and are the ones once again dominating... This is not Pirelli’s fault.Polite wrote: This is true but when it comes to 9 teams have bad tyres menagement, and only 1 is smart.. its no more sport.
Marko said it. Only one team last year had an issue with tyres and Pirelli helped them. So last year we had 1 team in bad shape and we got the 4mm less compund. This year 9 of 10 teams have issues but ``tyres are the same for all``.
dont u think Pirelli has to answer both years in the same way?
also AMUS talks about
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... -mercedes/
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and safety is an excuse used too often in f1.
news quotesSmallSoldier wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 17:12Facts? Would love some... Do you have any to support that it was Mercedes who asked for the change? Or where there several teams asking for it?Bill wrote:Mercedes asked for tyres to be changed even their engineers acknowledged that why can't people take facts for what they are. Why try to to sell this lie that Mercedes did a better job
I mean, that’s the preferred narrative nowadays... But beyond repetition of the statement, I don’t think there are any “facts” out there.
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Thanks! I will go through all after FP3!... I do appreciate you posting this!Polite wrote:news quotesSmallSoldier wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 17:12Facts? Would love some... Do you have any to support that it was Mercedes who asked for the change? Or where there several teams asking for it?Bill wrote:Mercedes asked for tyres to be changed even their engineers acknowledged that why can't people take facts for what they are. Why try to to sell this lie that Mercedes did a better job
I mean, that’s the preferred narrative nowadays... But beyond repetition of the statement, I don’t think there are any “facts” out there.
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https://wtf1.com/post/pirelli-will-use- ... s-in-2019/
https://wtf1.com/post/vettel-claims-pir ... -red-bull/
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13996 ... ce-in-2019
https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/02/ham ... ner-tyres/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/anal ... t/3222036/
Mercedes asked that in pre season teastin in 2018
https://www.givemesport.com/1290168-mer ... on-request
and i can go on.. those are press facts