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atanatizante wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:25 pm
On another note, Stroll said in the press conference after the race in Canada that there is a 0.2-sec per lap advantage between spec 1 and spec.2 PU ..
Had this figure is accurate and taking into account that is race circuit related how can it be translated in HP gain?
Does that take into account the degradation on the used PU-1?

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erudite450 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 pm
atanatizante wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:25 pm
On another note, Stroll said in the press conference after the race in Canada that there is a 0.2-sec per lap advantage between spec 1 and spec.2 PU ..
Had this figure is accurate and taking into account that is race circuit related how can it be translated in HP gain?
Does that take into account the degradation on the used PU-1?
Degradation is not that high in these engines like they were in Naturally aspirated times. We pretty much saw not much difference when Nico VS Lewis in 2014 to 2016 when on had an old engine and another had a new one. It was like 0.1 seconds a lap according to mercedes.

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erudite450 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 pm
atanatizante wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:25 pm
On another note, Stroll said in the press conference after the race in Canada that there is a 0.2-sec per lap advantage between spec 1 and spec.2 PU ..
Had this figure is accurate and taking into account that is race circuit related how can it be translated in HP gain?
Does that take into account the degradation on the used PU-1?
I've read that it was 0.2 in total and 0.1 of it cause it's a new engine.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:38 pm
erudite450 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 pm
atanatizante wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:25 pm
On another note, Stroll said in the press conference after the race in Canada that there is a 0.2-sec per lap advantage between spec 1 and spec.2 PU ..
Had this figure is accurate and taking into account that is race circuit related how can it be translated in HP gain?
Does that take into account the degradation on the used PU-1?
I've read that it was 0.2 in total and 0.1 of it cause it's a new engine.
I think this is correct.

Hamilton emphasised the new engine was mainly a reliability increase and a very minimal power gain and not to expect them to catch Ferrari"a speed with it.

That translates to at best maybe a 0.1 gain if that. Anything greater would not be referred to as a "very minimal gain"

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GhostF1 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:35 pm
MtthsMlw wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:38 pm
erudite450 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 pm


Does that take into account the degradation on the used PU-1?
I've read that it was 0.2 in total and 0.1 of it cause it's a new engine.
I think this is correct.

Hamilton emphasised the new engine was mainly a reliability increase and a very minimal power gain and not to expect them to catch Ferrari"a speed with it.

That translates to at best maybe a 0.1 gain if that. Anything greater would not be referred to as a "very minimal gain"
It's all about context, I suppose. Considering the top teams spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to chase hundreths of a second, any update that brings you 1 tenth is pretty substantial.

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It means they can run higher engine modes for longer during races. And race pace was where they were already the strongest in the field. Whilst qualifying might be a different matter, being faster on Sunday is always going to help.
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So Mercedes have dropped the end plate notch, just when Ferrari have copied it? That's mean :twisted: :D

"unnecessary and also incorrect" apparently, goes the sense of humour fail :cry:

Oh but some kind person has cancelled it out with a positive. My hero, whoever you are \:D/
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izzy wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:00 pm
So Mercedes have dropped the end plate notch, just when Ferrari have copied it? That's mean :twisted: :D
They've dropped it I think in Barcelona.

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Jozsusz wrote:
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izzy wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:00 pm
So Mercedes have dropped the end plate notch, just when Ferrari have copied it? That's mean :twisted: :D
They've dropped it I think in Barcelona.
Yes a month ago, about the time it takes to do a new wing :) i'm just kidding anyway

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That thing looks like a spaceship. I mean the sides and the rear...holy crap! :shock: