Pyrone89 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 03:35
sAx wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 01:28
Pyrone89 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 23:48
Disagree, with winning a WDC at Ferrari he can show that he is not just a very good but 1x WDC who got a bunch of free titles and wins in the most dominant team to ever grace the sport.
If you put Max (Chilton!) in the Merc he would be a 5X WDC, or Webber or Jolyon or Buemi or Vergne or Button or Grosjean or di Resta or Bourdais or Chandok or Karthikeyan or Maldonado or... (all of them beating Rosberg on the way!). As i understand it the Merc is actually that good, it doesn't actually require a driver!! Just a bunch of free titles...
Button yes, Rosberg yes, Webber yes, Verge would at least be a multi-WDC but he would have lost some. With the others you are just trolling. It is obvious that I was meaning that other good drivers would have also racked up these titles because of the car, no need to be an elite driver (which Hamilton still is). But his stats and Schumachers are massively inflated because of the cars and competition they had vs Senna, Prost, Laude, Clark etc.
Indeed. We saw what happened when Button was given a (mostly) dominant car. WDC. Same for Vettel. I assume a similar case could be made for Schumacher.
Merc and presumably Brawn pulled off the ultimate regulations coup in the lead up to 2014, far better even than Brawn's double-diffuser stunt. One that is not easily replicated. DDF, F-ducts and EBD are all relatively easy to understand and copy. Mastering the fuel limited turbo hybrids... Not so much. Six years of proof lay before us.
Consider how visible the aero devices are, and how invisible the powertrain components are. Think about how easy they are to reverse engineer. BrawnGP and RB struggled to maintain their leads compared to Mercedes in the turbo era, with their victory switches and sandbag toggles. When your trick turning vanes and your new wing shapes, your DDFs and your EBDs, are all hidden inside of bodywork, encased in monoliths of metal, buried within inscrutable code, your tricks become well guarded, indeed.
I like how the more aero dominant formulas of the 90s and 00s forced teams to release their IP to their competitors, simply by the nature of aero components being external and visible. It did not take long for everyone to throw an F-duct on their cars. This is why some on this forum (I think of Zynerji) advocate for the exchange of powertrain IP.