PowerandtheGlory wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:59 pm
scarnegie96 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:31 pm
PowerandtheGlory wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:52 pm
They aren't the only manufacturer caught in that loop.... "Hond-errrrrrr....."
Being Fair though, Honda started development late 2013/early 2014. Renault had years of lead time on them and took until after Honda had sorted reliability to get on top of it.
It would be sweet if it was Renault and Honda on top this year of the 4 engine manufacturers, with Ferrari and Mercs problems.
I think general consenus would say.. in the hybrid era there have been 2 engines. Merc and ferrari. (Even though early renaults were reliable)
Honda arrived and took some Mclaren and TR years to get ready, won 3 races. Renault were doing the same in tge last year with RB.
Till honda or renault can win regularly, they will be behind..
Fingers crossed though
Apples and Oranges to be honest, if you take everything into account.... One very clearly got their act together with significant progress each year after admitting to entering too early and underestimating the formula and then being released from their confinements imposed by a certain team... The other, actually championed for these regulations early on and had years of development lead time and yet still stumbled along season to season and as of last season, still had reliability issues across various components, to the point other manufacturer overall is pretty obviously now ahead. (Yes 2020 testing is a great sign but not enough just yet!)
I agree, seeing these two actually take position's 1 and 2 across all 4 engines would be fantastic. And seeing as though Ferrari admitted their 2020 engine is weaker than last year, maybe this is possible, although only one gives me the confidence from the past two year that they'll challenge the top dogs. And it's not French..