Its not just power unit. Braking and mid corner leading into acceleration Max is also losing. Using the car graphic u can sorta see the yoyo effect thru the corners.
Ricciardos dive. bombs dont run both cars off the track. And as for the stroll incident, he has every right to complain about that. The door was only really open to a car that was likely to overshoot the corner. If Stroll had managed to stay in control, then he could have make the corner. As far as I can see, everything Ric said is spot on.FrukostScones wrote: ↑16 Jul 2020, 21:23I dont get it.
What is RIC'S problem.
He slept and left the door wide open. No matter if STR overshot. RIC send an invitation.
To ask for driver meeting discussion about this is laughable.
Also coming from RIC, a guy who loves to divebomb.
That is a way to lose you your good rep.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15061 ... s-briefing
I agree also. Palmer breaks it down very well here.godlameroso wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 01:51I agree with everything Riccardo said. If he had made the turn, then fine, but Stroll should have given the space back because it was a failed attempt.
I´m late to this so probably it´s been replied, but those are different savings. To save fuel you must lift and coast wich means releasing the throttle sooner than possible. That save some tires too but the most efficient way to save tires is reducing minimum speed in high speed corners, wich are what put more stress on the tires because of downforce. That is not fuel efficient but the contrary, more acceleration needed as the initial speed for next straight is lower (more time spent accelerating)ENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:46The Merc are winning races while underfueling, the tires are definitely what holds them back in the race. They are lifting and coasting to lower the load on the tires and to recharge the batteries.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:43Could a car be driven flat out to the limit of the tyres with the current fuel usage restrictions? All very well saying "we want tyres that can be driven hard for a full stint" if the car will be lift and coasting for half the race anyway to stay within the fuel limits.
The team is so strong in every aspect that he doesn´t need to be a top leader, this is the reality.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 12:57The bubble bursts on everyone. His time will come. I saw him completely fall apart under pressure in 2018 when Ferrari and Seb were on a roll. It was Hamilton's brilliance that rescued Mercedes in that little time but it won't last forever and there will be a lot of table smashing in the future. He is not a team leader. Not by a long shot.Vasconia wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 08:41I am personally really fed up with Toto`s "our competitors are super strong I don´t know if we can win blah,blah,blah..."El Scorchio wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 12:51
So should Marko and Horner get as much grief on here for overhyping their team as Wolff does for downplaying Mercedes' chances?
What makes you say that?
The team is where it is because of Toto's leadership, not in spite of it. He's helped to build the structures and put the people in place and empower them to do their jobs well.Vasconia wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 08:38The team is so strong in every aspect that he doesn´t need to be a top leader, this is the reality.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 12:57The bubble bursts on everyone. His time will come. I saw him completely fall apart under pressure in 2018 when Ferrari and Seb were on a roll. It was Hamilton's brilliance that rescued Mercedes in that little time but it won't last forever and there will be a lot of table smashing in the future. He is not a team leader. Not by a long shot.
It also lowers the maximum braking load, and lowers wear on tires and brakes. Downforce is not necessarily what causes the most damage/degradation on these pirellis, they are more susceptible to sliding and overheating. In general, the cars with more downforce are better on their tires.Andres125sx wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 08:04I´m late to this so probably it´s been replied, but those are different savings. To save fuel you must lift and coast wich means releasing the throttle sooner than possible. That save some tires too but the most efficient way to save tires is reducing minimum speed in high speed corners, wich are what put more stress on the tires because of downforce. That is not fuel efficient but the contrary, more acceleration needed as the initial speed for next straight is lower (more time spent accelerating)ENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:46The Merc are winning races while underfueling, the tires are definitely what holds them back in the race. They are lifting and coasting to lower the load on the tires and to recharge the batteries.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:43Could a car be driven flat out to the limit of the tyres with the current fuel usage restrictions? All very well saying "we want tyres that can be driven hard for a full stint" if the car will be lift and coasting for half the race anyway to stay within the fuel limits.
No. He just took over what was built by Ross Brawn.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 10:37The team is where it is because of Toto's leadership, not in spite of it. He's helped to build the structures and put the people in place and empower them to do their jobs well.Vasconia wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 08:38The team is so strong in every aspect that he doesn´t need to be a top leader, this is the reality.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 12:57
The bubble bursts on everyone. His time will come. I saw him completely fall apart under pressure in 2018 when Ferrari and Seb were on a roll. It was Hamilton's brilliance that rescued Mercedes in that little time but it won't last forever and there will be a lot of table smashing in the future. He is not a team leader. Not by a long shot.