General Honda F1 Topic

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I thought I heard teams radioing their drivers during the race to switch something, maybe I was mistaken, or these are not engine-related settings, or these are MGU-related (is changing settings related to energy recovery still allowed ?).

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:52 pm
Marti_EF3 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:43 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:24 pm
There is a rumour going around that in order to put the fight to Mercedes, the engine in Max's RedBull in particular is turned up to a higher setting than the ones in the other three RedBulls....
That should be only the ERS settings. Because ICE modes must be the same for all 4 Honda PU
Say... Six maps are issued each race... All four ECUs have these six maps.. But Max is given permission to use Map #6.. Everybody else has access to them but are assigned to Map #5.

This is because Max has to fight Merxedes and he shoulders the risk. Maybe why Honda is so hush on things...

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/68278/br ... ppen-.html

I hinted this before the engine mode regs came in that Max might be getting more boost and taking engine life during quali and phases of race. It was very clear that in spurts Albon could match Max ala silverstone if the team were to give him same options.
We have yet to have clean race for Max since the engine reg came in. I wanted to see how Alex fares with same engine setting. I'll repeat what Honda said of Max having higher engine demands as he is lot quicker on the gas than any other driver and also he is aggressive with gear shifts. They cant have the same map if the drivers input is different, there will have to be areas to harvest energy.

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Unfortunately there are 3 sets of parameters all referred to by the same word “mode”

1 Engine mode - the set of parameters that determine the output of the ICE. It’s this set that has been restricted
2 Power Unit mode - the discrete ways that the ICE and ERS outputs are combined to provide different power levels.
3 Strategy mode - the way the PU modes are mixed around a lap to use the fuel and electrical energies.
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velizare wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:45 am
bigblue wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:56 pm
Stupid question ... I (naievely ?) thought that all engine modes were gone. You qualify with what you're going to race. However, everyone's still talking about modes so was I mistaken ?
they are not gone, i mean they are not completely removed from the ecus, but you cannot switch between them since start of qualification, but a few corner cases, like outlap in qualy.
They maybe still there but I am sure that they are not how they were before last td. If they were same Honda and merc wouldn't want to have a more week for preparing. I think they combined best possible things in one mode and they change parameters of it ( same mode ) from race to race. Maybe they use lesser electric power in normal conditions and when need to use more, driver pushes overtake button. Maybe when that button used, it triggers some function inside the mode to run pu more powerfull or something like that.
It also maybe preprogrammed for reading driver behavior. As you know they program it especially for electric usage and energy recuperation for predetermined parts of spesific tracks. When driver brake late and throttle earlier ecu can recognise it. Before this it was easy. Just say it to driver.