2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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El Scorchio
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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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renault rs26 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:21
Tvetovnato wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 19:19
renault rs26 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 17:45
https://i.imgur.com/6fpMR2O.png

This guy managed to lose this race. :lol:
And what exactly did Hamilton do wrong this time? He wanted to pit for slicks, but the team told him to stay out. He was dead last and then finished third. Effing ridiculous comment.
It was a joke. Btw team couldn't tell him to stay out during formation lap, drivers had to decide themselves whether they pit or not so it's Hamilton's mistake.
Tough call to make from the lead though. All the cars round him had nothing to lose. I’m sure if he was sitting 6-7th he’d have done it. But it has been pointed out more than a few times that there was a strong chance if he did go in, everyone would have passed him in the pit lane anyway, due to the position of his pit box. It was a bit of a lose/lose situation for him.

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hollus wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:15
renault rs26 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:01
Shrieker wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 17:51


Oh please... Don't ruin people's day with facts and logic :wink:
People are angry because of his driving since pit exit not last few corners.
Man, it's so hard to kill a good narrative!
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outlap 1 through the pit lane - 10s
outlap 2 through the pit lane when red bull is behind - 26s
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Diesel wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:21
Just_a_fan wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:14
zibby43 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:06
https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/stat ... 90084?s=21

https://twitter.com/jenniegow/status/14 ... 94176?s=21

Sainz podium. Hamilton P2. Verstappen P9.

A critical extra 2 points for Hamilton in the title battle.

Gutted for Seb.
That's hard on the driver for something that is probably not in his control. A bit like the penalties for unsafe release.
The team should have been aware of the fuel level and asked for some fuel saving from Seb during the race. I guess they were hoping they would pass Ocon and coast to save fuel, but the pass never came.
Or just do what Russell did and stop jist after the pit exit. Didn't seb go all the way round nearly to the pit entry?
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El Scorchio wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:27
renault rs26 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:21
Tvetovnato wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 19:19


And what exactly did Hamilton do wrong this time? He wanted to pit for slicks, but the team told him to stay out. He was dead last and then finished third. Effing ridiculous comment.
It was a joke. Btw team couldn't tell him to stay out during formation lap, drivers had to decide themselves whether they pit or not so it's Hamilton's mistake.
Tough call to make from the lead though. All the cars round him had nothing to lose. I’m sure if he was sitting 6-7th he’d have done it. But it has been pointed out more than a few times that there was a strong chance if he did go in, everyone would have passed him in the pit lane anyway, due to the position of his pit box. It was a bit of a lose/lose situation for him.
Apparently the teams can call their drivers in the pits during this warmup lap, just not the first. If he went into the pits, he would still be in the lead of everyone that pitted, as long as they took a bit of risk with slotting him in between a the first few cars. Just one of those little Mercedes mistakes they make (quite a lot). Luckily RedBull made the reverse mistake during the safety car, calling Verstappen in while there was a big chance of a red flag. They gave up a lot of track position which cost them a lot of points today.

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zibby43 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:06
https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/stat ... 90084?s=21

https://twitter.com/jenniegow/status/14 ... 94176?s=21

Sainz podium. Hamilton P2. Verstappen P9.

A critical extra 2 points for Hamilton in the title battle.

Gutted for Seb.
What a sucky end to what was otherwise a great day of racing :(

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El Scorchio wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:27
renault rs26 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:21
Tvetovnato wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 19:19


And what exactly did Hamilton do wrong this time? He wanted to pit for slicks, but the team told him to stay out. He was dead last and then finished third. Effing ridiculous comment.
It was a joke. Btw team couldn't tell him to stay out during formation lap, drivers had to decide themselves whether they pit or not so it's Hamilton's mistake.
Tough call to make from the lead though. All the cars round him had nothing to lose. I’m sure if he was sitting 6-7th he’d have done it. But it has been pointed out more than a few times that there was a strong chance if he did go in, everyone would have passed him in the pit lane anyway, due to the position of his pit box. It was a bit of a lose/lose situation for him.
He'd of been passed by all but maybe a couple of cars, hed of been sat in his box while every car came past, and hed have only past maybe 2 or 3 that were still in their boxes. Alonsos amazing defencive driving cost him the win as much as not boxing did.

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renault rs26 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:21
Tvetovnato wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 19:19
renault rs26 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 17:45
https://i.imgur.com/6fpMR2O.png

This guy managed to lose this race. :lol:
And what exactly did Hamilton do wrong this time? He wanted to pit for slicks, but the team told him to stay out. He was dead last and then finished third. Effing ridiculous comment.
It was a joke. Btw team couldn't tell him to stay out during formation lap, drivers had to decide themselves whether they pit or not so it's Hamilton's mistake.
A mistake is a choice with unwanted results. This choice could have given positive results and people still whining.
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renault rs26 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:30

outlap 1 through the pit lane - 10s
outlap 2 through the pit lane when red bull is behind - 26s
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I wonder why the pit lane tracker doesn't show the other cars? Where is this 16 second gap you are suggesting Hamilton should've driven into? Weird that, before he even reaches Turn 1, the tracker suddenly shows that there's almost no gap to Bottas and then almost no gap to Ocon. It's almost as if the whole train was late and that Red Bull screwed up by not coming out before Mercedes (and, in doing so, putting Hamilton in Perez's spot). You know, exactly the point originally made by Hollus?

The entire Mercedes team have made plenty of mistakes (this weekend and previously). There's no need to make stuff up in order to find fault.

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Red bull should look into whether Russell stopping warrants a disqualification similar to Seb, should they not?

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ispano6 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:41
Red bull should look into whether Russell stopping warrants a disqualification similar to Seb, should they not?
No, his car passed scrutineering.

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ispano6 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:41
Red bull should look into whether Russell stopping warrants a disqualification similar to Seb, should they not?
FIA already checked and Russell is compliant. SO no chance for Horner to argue that one.

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Vet - DQ! Fuel sampling infringement. Not due to the fuel being out of spec, but because the required 1 litre sample could not be produced...only 0.3 litre.

F1 classifications soon to be announced a week after the race (FE style).

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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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ispano6 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:41
Red bull should look into whether Russell stopping warrants a disqualification similar to Seb, should they not?
Horner is probably knocking up another PowerPoint presentation as we speak.

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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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renault rs26 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:30
hollus wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:15
renault rs26 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:01


People are angry because of his driving since pit exit not last few corners.
Man, it's so hard to kill a good narrative!
https://i.imgur.com/Z4FsaeE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lAViVEI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lxgxI02.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0RqRhTN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QSXWzJw.jpg

outlap 1 through the pit lane - 10s
outlap 2 through the pit lane when red bull is behind - 26s
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Soooo… Redbull chose to bring their cars out as last of the cue and then, while everyone was holding equal distances to each other, Hamilton should give his place in the cue to Verstappen?

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ispano6 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 22:41
Red bull should look into whether Russell stopping warrants a disqualification similar to Seb, should they not?
Maybe they should weigh Verstappen’s car 😂

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