2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[euv2]

Idk if it's drag or the Honda engine but the RB doesn't pull hard enough anymore. They're losing out like 5 kph vs the Mercedes engined cars with DRS closed. Was an issue in SA as well.

I have only seen the deficit in races, in qualy the Honda engine does keep up but yeah, I do think the Merc is the better engine now. We'll see if the trend of the Honda PU not reaching peak performance in race holds up here, 2 long straights should give us good insights.

[euv2]

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I think Red Bull will be quicker in S1, potentially on par with Mclaren in S2. They are not bad in T1 or that slow speed complex of S2 (T11 -> T15). No time is lost. It's only from exit of T16 where the time is lost down the straights. They need to improve T16 as visually the car seems to lose grip at the apex which leads to a wide line at the exit and unable to return to power as quickly.

Yes, Max has been consistently the fastest in turns 5 and 6, so I expect him to be the fastest in sector 1, sector 2 will probably be MCL but will be important for Max to stay close, as for T16 it's hard to say if its tire related or balance related but huge deficit so far.

Still don't think we have the outright pace to challenge MCL, Lec is also looking competitive this weekend, will be tight in qualifying.

[Bill]

Idk if it's drag or the Honda engine but the RB doesn't pull hard enough anymore. They're losing out like 5 kph vs the Mercedes engined cars with DRS closed. Was an issue in SA as well.

I have only seen the deficit in races, in qualy the Honda engine does keep up but yeah, I do think the Merc is the better engine now. We'll see if the trend of the Honda PU not reaching peak performance in race holds up here, 2 long straights should give us good insights.

Its only practice and if you havent notice they are no pu developments ,redbull does not have good traction even the alpine is better at that.some teams are benefiting from using flexy wings fia should have clamped on them hard from the beginning of season

[Sergej]

S2 will be McLaren territory with that slow speed / traction stuff, Norris had put an absurd S2 before the red flag.

[Cs98]

Idk if it's drag or the Honda engine but the RB doesn't pull hard enough anymore. They're losing out like 5 kph vs the Mercedes engined cars with DRS closed. Was an issue in SA as well.

I have only seen the deficit in races, in qualy the Honda engine does keep up but yeah, I do think the Merc is the better engine now. We'll see if the trend of the Honda PU not reaching peak performance in race holds up here, 2 long straights should give us good insights.

With DRS RB is still competitive, so it's mitigated to some extent on quali runs. They still lose time before DRS can be opened, that's clear to see on the S2 straight in the telemetry.

[AR3-GP]

S2 will be McLaren territory with that slow speed / traction stuff, Norris had put an absurd S2 before the red flag.

We don't know the fuel load. Track was cooling. His run was later than the others. There are many factors in it.

[chrisc90]

Only other week McLaren was a second ahead in free practice and look how that turned out.
Tough to say, at the minute

[euv2]

Idk if it's drag or the Honda engine but the RB doesn't pull hard enough anymore. They're losing out like 5 kph vs the Mercedes engined cars with DRS closed. Was an issue in SA as well.

I have only seen the deficit in races, in qualy the Honda engine does keep up but yeah, I do think the Merc is the better engine now. We'll see if the trend of the Honda PU not reaching peak performance in race holds up here, 2 long straights should give us good insights.

With DRS RB is still competitive, so it's mitigated to some extent on quali runs. They still lose time before DRS can be opened, that's clear to see on the S2 straight in the telemetry.

Oddly RB21 has the lowest DRS delta here whereas it has usually been on the other end of the spectrum.

[AR3-GP]

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Oddly RB21 has the lowest DRS delta here whereas it has usually been on the other end of the spectrum.

This chart is not reliable. Red Bull does not have a higher non-DRS speed than Mclaren with that rear wing. The editor often uses bad data points or data points that lack context of engine modes, slips streams, and so on.

[euv2]

https://preview.redd.it/miami-gp-fp1-te ... bf56a963b0

Oddly RB21 has the lowest DRS delta here whereas it has usually been on the other end of the spectrum.

This chart is not reliable. Red Bull does not have a higher non-DRS speed than Mclaren with that rear wing.

Yeah, something didn't seem right, too far off the norm for RB.

[Emag]

I wouldnt be surprised if Max puts it on sprint pole.

[CjC]

I wouldnt be surprised if Max puts it on sprint pole.

He’s favourite for me

[AR3-GP]

Monaghan interview continued

“We understand what’s happened but actually affecting a cure is not that straightforward. It may never disappear from the car.

“Can we reduce the magnitude, improve the lap time? Yes. There’s a lot of clever people in Milton Keynes who are working hard to improve step and it will come.”

Monaghan added that the upgrades, if optimised, should add speed through all corner variations for Red Bull.

“It will get us at the majority of them,” he said.

“Anytime you have a change of speed from the point you hit the brake to turn into the apex, everybody’s going to get it.

“Then it’s just the magnitude we argue over. It will come as incremental improvements and we’ll chip away. We’ll get quicker, don’t worry.”

Upgrade not for any specific corner type.

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2025/05/ ... -miami-gp/

[CjC]

S2 will be McLaren territory with that slow speed / traction stuff, Norris had put an absurd S2 before the red flag.

We don't know the fuel load. Track was cooling. His run was later than the others. There are many factors in it.

Track temp was 38 at the beginning and 49 just before the red flag

[Sergej]

Monaghan interview continued

“We understand what’s happened but actually affecting a cure is not that straightforward. It may never disappear from the car.

“Can we reduce the magnitude, improve the lap time? Yes. There’s a lot of clever people in Milton Keynes who are working hard to improve step and it will come.”

Monaghan added that the upgrades, if optimised, should add speed through all corner variations for Red Bull.

“It will get us at the majority of them,” he said.

“Anytime you have a change of speed from the point you hit the brake to turn into the apex, everybody’s going to get it.

“Then it’s just the magnitude we argue over. It will come as incremental improvements and we’ll chip away. We’ll get quicker, don’t worry.”

Upgrade not for any specific corner type.

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2025/05/ ... -miami-gp/

"don't worry trust me bro" they should worry if they want to keep Max in the team