2022 Winter Testing Part 2: Bahrain International Circuit 10-12th March

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shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:13
Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 08:50
shamyakovic wrote:
13 Mar 2022, 12:53

Really? Merc since 2014 is the only team who have allowed their driver to race each other...
Sorry couldn´t read anymore from this point, it became too comic for this early hour in the morning :lol: :lol: :lol:

:roll:
So nico rosberg and Lewis Hamilton were they in different teams from 2014 to 2016? #-o
Sorry couldn't read anymore from this point, it is become too much hate for this late hour in the morning :lol: :lol:

:wtf:
He's still upset about 2007. :wink:
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Just_a_fan wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:43
shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:13
Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 08:50


Sorry couldn´t read anymore from this point, it became too comic for this early hour in the morning :lol: :lol: :lol:

:roll:
So nico rosberg and Lewis Hamilton were they in different teams from 2014 to 2016? #-o
Sorry couldn't read anymore from this point, it is become too much hate for this late hour in the morning :lol: :lol:

:wtf:
He's still upset about 2007. :wink:
upset being a huge understatement :wink:
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Are there any long-run comparisons (other than the merc/RB/ferrari one)? Haven't seen a lot related to the teams that weren't 2021 front runners or Ferrari so far.

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DChemTech wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 12:15
Are there any long-run comparisons (other than the merc/RB/ferrari one)? Haven't seen a lot related to the teams that weren't 2021 front runners or Ferrari so far.
No comparisons, but here you can see all the rounds from every driver during all three days.

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Wouter wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 12:34
DChemTech wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 12:15
Are there any long-run comparisons (other than the merc/RB/ferrari one)? Haven't seen a lot related to the teams that weren't 2021 front runners or Ferrari so far.
No comparisons, but here you can see all the rounds from every driver during all three days.

Thanks, I did see this one from you before indeed - but was hoping someone already did the data processing :mrgreen:

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Watto wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 09:23
I think its great that it looks like battle between Merc, Ferrari and RB will make for a good season if it does, probably a few that look like they may push. But I think its hard to be certain who will win the driver and constructors championships is great to have
At the moment, I am not that sure Merc will be in that group, for the first race at least
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I would love for "whathefat" to come out of retirement now!
Gonna check his website. F1metrics to see if he has anything...
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shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:13
Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 08:50
shamyakovic wrote:
13 Mar 2022, 12:53

Really? Merc since 2014 is the only team who have allowed their driver to race each other...
Sorry couldn´t read anymore from this point, it became too comic for this early hour in the morning :lol: :lol: :lol:

:roll:
So nico rosberg and Lewis Hamilton were they in different teams from 2014 to 2016? #-o
Sorry couldn't read anymore from this point, it is become too much hate for this late hour in the morning :lol: :lol:

:wtf:
It doesn´t matter who was in Mercedes, the laugable part of your comment is that they were the only team without TOs :wink:

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Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:43
shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:13
Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 08:50


Sorry couldn´t read anymore from this point, it became too comic for this early hour in the morning :lol: :lol: :lol:

:roll:
So nico rosberg and Lewis Hamilton were they in different teams from 2014 to 2016? #-o
Sorry couldn't read anymore from this point, it is become too much hate for this late hour in the morning :lol: :lol:

:wtf:
It doesn´t matter who was in Mercedes, the laugable part of your comment is that they were the only team without TOs :wink:
Maybe you need to read my quote again... slowly.
Really? Merc since 2014 is the only team who have allowed their driver to race each other...

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Just_a_fan wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:43
shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:13
Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 08:50


Sorry couldn´t read anymore from this point, it became too comic for this early hour in the morning :lol: :lol: :lol:

:roll:
So nico rosberg and Lewis Hamilton were they in different teams from 2014 to 2016? #-o
Sorry couldn't read anymore from this point, it is become too much hate for this late hour in the morning :lol: :lol:

:wtf:
He's still upset about 2007. :wink:
Unfair and low class comment Just a Fan #-o

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shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:44
Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:43
shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:13


So nico rosberg and Lewis Hamilton were they in different teams from 2014 to 2016? #-o
Sorry couldn't read anymore from this point, it is become too much hate for this late hour in the morning :lol: :lol:

:wtf:
It doesn´t matter who was in Mercedes, the laugable part of your comment is that they were the only team without TOs :wink:
Maybe you need to read my quote again... slowly.
Really? Merc since 2014 is the only team who have allowed their driver to race each other...
The only team to allow their drivers to race each other is not the same as the only team without TOs?

Maybe it´s not me who should read again.... slowly? :roll:

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shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:44
Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:43
shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 10:13


So nico rosberg and Lewis Hamilton were they in different teams from 2014 to 2016? #-o
Sorry couldn't read anymore from this point, it is become too much hate for this late hour in the morning :lol: :lol:

:wtf:
It doesn´t matter who was in Mercedes, the laugable part of your comment is that they were the only team without TOs :wink:
Maybe you need to read my quote again... slowly.
Really? Merc since 2014 is the only team who have allowed their driver to race each other...
Sorry, but that statement is even more wrong. Most teams at most times allowed their drivers to race eachother. They were not racing the dominant MB anyway for the title. Even though that led to crashes between teammates, say RB in Baku.

Hamilton and rosberg were free to race for the champion because they were guaranteed one of them would win. The team had nothing to lose.

And even in those few seasons that RB/ferrari did challenge MB, they rarely issued team orders (they did not need to because one driver performed much better than the other), despite fighting a mostly uphill battle vs mercedes over the season as a whole. They certainly didnt have more team orders than Mercedes itself, and quite possibly less - but that's a counting exercise I rather leave to others.

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DChemTech wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:55
shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:44
Andres125sx wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:43


It doesn´t matter who was in Mercedes, the laugable part of your comment is that they were the only team without TOs :wink:
Maybe you need to read my quote again... slowly.
Really? Merc since 2014 is the only team who have allowed their driver to race each other...
Sorry, but that statement is even more wrong. Most teams at most times allowed their drivers to race eachother. They were not racing the dominant MB anyway for the title. Even though that led to crashes between teammates, say RB in Baku.

Hamilton and rosberg were free to race for the champion because they were guaranteed one of them would win. The team had nothing to lose.

And even in those few seasons that RB/ferrari did challenge MB, they rarely issued team orders (they did not need to because one driver performed much better than the other), despite fighting a mostly uphill battle vs mercedes over the season as a whole. They certainly didnt have more team orders than Mercedes itself, and quite possibly less - but that's a counting exercise I rather leave to others.
Could you tell me when was the last time in f1 history team mates where allowed to fight for the championship?
We may have to go back to the 80s
I know they didn't have nothing to lose, but the statement saying if merc will allow Lewis and George to race for championship is completely wrong.. they were the only team since 2014 who allowed this. Even in 2019 ferrari could not resist to impose team orders in the first race even when they had a very strong car.

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shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 21:03

Could you tell me when was the last time in f1 history team mates where allowed to fight for the championship?
We may have to go back to the 80s
I know they didn't have nothing to lose, but the statement saying if merc will allow Lewis and George to race for championship is completely wrong.. they were the only team since 2014 who allowed this. Even in 2019 ferrari could not resist to impose team orders in the first race even when they had a very strong car.
Allowed… At least the last 15 years

Actually did… 2016

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shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 21:03
DChemTech wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:55
shamyakovic wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 20:44

Maybe you need to read my quote again... slowly.
Sorry, but that statement is even more wrong. Most teams at most times allowed their drivers to race eachother. They were not racing the dominant MB anyway for the title. Even though that led to crashes between teammates, say RB in Baku.

Hamilton and rosberg were free to race for the champion because they were guaranteed one of them would win. The team had nothing to lose.

And even in those few seasons that RB/ferrari did challenge MB, they rarely issued team orders (they did not need to because one driver performed much better than the other), despite fighting a mostly uphill battle vs mercedes over the season as a whole. They certainly didnt have more team orders than Mercedes itself, and quite possibly less - but that's a counting exercise I rather leave to others.
Could you tell me when was the last time in f1 history team mates where allowed to fight for the championship?
We may have to go back to the 80s
I know they didn't have nothing to lose, but the statement saying if merc will allow Lewis and George to race for championship is completely wrong.. they were the only team since 2014 who allowed this. Even in 2019 ferrari could not resist to impose team orders in the first race even when they had a very strong car.
And go back in to the annals of F1 history and you find drivers being required to give up their car for their team mate. And yet no one has a go at Fangio's record. It just seems to be a certain bloke that is held to a higher required standard than every other champion in F1 history. Funny that.
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