Some Mugello test pictures.
Pretty sure this is a new FW
k. I looked back through some pictures in this thread and thought maybe the dip in the top element/flap might be new but wasn't sure.MIKEY_! wrote:I think the wing is the same but the AoA of the adjustable part has been eased all the way back.
Your statement implies that you have a way to rate the performance of the various exhaust layouts. I don't recall any way to do this at this time. What is the bases for your opinion?n smikle wrote:Hmm funny how they are still developing the Sauber exhaust when Sauber have moved on! God Help Ferrari who are probably just taking the sauber style side pod out of the autoclave! Must be really disconcerting for Newey and Fry.
Modelling exhaust gas behaviour is impossible with CFD + wind tunnels. Teams don't know the real benefit of these types of exhaust unless they do a back to back compare on track and analyse the loads in measured in the suspension.PhillipM wrote:Or do you think they're developing to go backwards
temperature measurementtok-tokkie wrote:I would say that array of pipes samples the gas to see where the actual exhaust & airflow goes. Do not look like pitot tubes.
EDIT: Having zoomed in on the picture I don't know what they are. Look like Bunsen burners with vent holes at their bases.
Well it was deemed important enough to test. I personally feel its better, but even if it wasn't, the point I was putting forward is that Sauber testing the Macca exhaust is making Newey and Fry sweat like pigs.ImAnEngineer wrote:Modelling exhaust gas behaviour is impossible with CFD + wind tunnels. Teams don't know the real benefit of these types of exhaust unless they do a back to back compare on track and analyse the loads in measured in the suspension.PhillipM wrote:Or do you think they're developing to go backwards
TL;DR:Sauber don't know if the MCL exhaust is better than theirs until they try it
I just don't get the logic. As of the last race.... RB and Lotus would seem on top. What is generating the fear?n smikle wrote: I personally feel its better, but even if it wasn't, the point I was putting forward is that Sauber testing the Macca exhaust is making Newey and Fry sweat like pigs.
But why? RB are leading both championships aren't they?n smikle wrote:Well it was deemed important enough to test. I personally feel its better, but even if it wasn't, the point I was putting forward is that Sauber testing the Macca exhaust is making Newey and Fry sweat like pigs.ImAnEngineer wrote:Modelling exhaust gas behaviour is impossible with CFD + wind tunnels. Teams don't know the real benefit of these types of exhaust unless they do a back to back compare on track and analyse the loads in measured in the suspension.PhillipM wrote:Or do you think they're developing to go backwards
TL;DR:Sauber don't know if the MCL exhaust is better than theirs until they try it