2018 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 27-29

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sosic2121
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Zynerji wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 18:30
ripper wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 18:29
Wonderkid can't be wrong and can't be moved back in Toro Rosso. He's becoming dangerous for himself and other drivers, someone should tell him to calm down and stopping defending/attacking in that way.
Are those not the exact reasons Kvyat was sent back to STR? Give him some time to sort those things out?
Actually no. Those were the excuses, not the reasons. It was he's marketing potential and Joss the boss that got him that seat.
Just remember what he did 3 races earlier, in Australia. A proper hothead.

And he was told he can't do that by other drivers but he decided to ignore them. There is an incident with max in almost every f1 race max started.
Pushing people out, blocking, waving, crashing, young superstar done it all.

But, it's not he's fault, it's FIA's. Just as today.

ArcticWolfie
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dans79 wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 19:47
wesley123 wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 19:37
They both seem to have forgotten that they are driving for the same team.
Just the petulant child max who drives like he is the chosen one!
How does that work?

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NathanOlder
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It works because more people see it that way than dont.
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NathanOlder wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 19:55
It works because more people see it that way than dont.
You only see your British bubble, that works for you eh :D

Tubas
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ArcticWolfie wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 19:53
dans79 wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 19:47
wesley123 wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 19:37
They both seem to have forgotten that they are driving for the same team.
Just the petulant child max who drives like he is the chosen one!
How does that work?
Well... you drive like you are the more important than the team. You drive as if endangering the life and car of your team mate is subservient to your need to pass. He will kill someone, or kill himself eventually unless he grows up.

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It felt like the Safety Car was on track for ever. One would expect the track entirely clean afterwards, but at the end it was debrit which destroyed Bottas' tyre. How awkward and ridiculous at the same time.

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LM10 wrote:It felt like the Safety Car was on track for ever. One would expect the track entirely clean afterwards, but at the end it was debrit which destroyed Bottas' tyre. How awkward and ridiculous at the same time.
2nd longest track is a lot of ground to cover. It happens
Always find the gap then use it.

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dans79 wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 19:47
wesley123 wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 19:37
They both seem to have forgotten that they are driving for the same team.
Just the petulant child max who drives like he is the chosen one!
To be honest I think most of the damage done is from the Dutch media, whom literally praises anyone doing well in a sport(excluding ice skating) as if they are a God, to such an extent that they actually destroy the sporter.

The Dutch media has never held a mirror in front of him when he made a mistake, but always put it on something else. It's not surprising that he then thinks F1 revolves around him
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jjn9128 wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 18:17
No penalty for Ricciardo or Verstappen
In a statement issued by the stewards, they noted that Verstappen had made two moves to defend his position – but they added that Ricciardo had also played his part in what happened by braking so late.

"Both drivers contributed to the collision," said the statement. "The driver of car 33 [Verstappen] made two moves, both of which were relatively minor.

"The driver of car 3 [Ricciardo] admitted he left his move to overtake on the left, too late.

"It was obvious to the stewards that although the incident had its origins in the moves by car 33, the driver of car 3 also contributed to the incident.

"Both drivers expressed regret about their respective contributions to the incident, during the Stewards' hearing."
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ricc ... h-1031835/
they are going waaaaaaaaaay out of their way to not give the penalty out to VER, of course the other car contributed to the accident, it hit the car in front!!!! and that is exactly why that rule of one move was implemented, so that the guy behind can count on the front runner not to close the door in such a manner, when VER moved in front of him, it was all over, the downforce from the front wing was gone and no chance at all for him to brake effectively

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From https://www.formule1.nl/nieuws/verstapp ... -red-bull/ using trusty translate...

As a 'punishment' Verstappen and Ricciardo must travel to the Red Bull factory in Milton Keynes for the Grand Prix of Spain to offer their apologies. The Dutchman and Australia threw a fourth and fifth place with their clash at the Baku City Circuit, much to the displeasure of team boss Christian Horner. "We discuss these kinds of things behind closed doors, but the boys eventually drive for the team and realize that they have ruined it today," he says Sky Sports F1.

"They have to apologize to the team - to every member of the team - because this is a team sport; what they have clearly forgotten. "According to Horner, Verstappen and Ricciardo, who had fiercely fought each other in the Grand Prix of Azerbaijan, had already been told a few times by their engineers to slow down. "I do not want to blame anyone. They are both guilty, and it is the team that is the victim of it. "

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epo wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 18:36


Saints was not faster then Hulkenberg, and yes you obviously because of Saints don't like Verstappen (who crushed him at STR) so keep your nonsense to yourself please.
Sorry but he was increasing the gap until Hulk made a mistake, so yes he was being faster at that point of the race. Its kinda boring to read again the Verstappen-Sainz stuff, what an obsession seriously

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jz11 wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 20:12
they are going waaaaaaaaaay out of their way to not give the penalty out to VER, of course the other car contributed to the accident, it hit the car in front!!!! and that is exactly why that rule of one move was implemented, so that the guy behind can count on the front runner not to close the door in such a manner, when VER moved in front of him, it was all over, the downforce from the front wing was gone and no chance at all for him to brake effectively
I dunno... the FIA stewards are trying to not give a penalty in incidents where one driver isn't predominantly to blame. My feeling was Verstappen was mostly to blame (75-80% of the responsibility) so a penalty should have been applied... one can almost see their argument though...

The FIA seem to have issues rigidly applying the rules when neither party wants the other punished - they're more likely to give a penalty if this were Vettel vs Hamilton (to pick 2 drivers at random) than the 2 Red Bulls/2 Mercedes - because they don't have Ferrari and Mercedes bosses there arguing the case for a penalty for the other. I've seen it with Charlie Whiting in the videos they've released of driver briefings, where he seems to be unaware of issues unless the drivers and teams are shouting down the radio at him. It's almost like the race director isn't watching the race sometimes.

Could just be my perception of things... it took ~30 laps before the 1st lap incidents were investigated though...
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Just watched the race.
Bottas unlucky, Grosjean an idiot, Vettel once again not looking at the long game and I hate the SC.
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What the hell happened to Magnussen and Haas ?
I suppose the Ferrari forgot to tell them the secret to the setup for Baku. Even Grosean on Supersoft couldn't fight Checo on Softs.

Amazing drive from Charles Leclerc he is showing some good signs.It would be embarrassing for Ericson if he is defeated by a rookie.

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Tubas wrote:
29 Apr 2018, 20:16
From https://www.formule1.nl/nieuws/verstapp ... -red-bull/ using trusty translate...

As a 'punishment' Verstappen and Ricciardo must travel to the Red Bull factory in Milton Keynes for the Grand Prix of Spain to offer their apologies. The Dutchman and Australia threw a fourth and fifth place with their clash at the Baku City Circuit, much to the displeasure of team boss Christian Horner. "We discuss these kinds of things behind closed doors, but the boys eventually drive for the team and realize that they have ruined it today," he says Sky Sports F1.

"They have to apologize to the team - to every member of the team - because this is a team sport; what they have clearly forgotten. "According to Horner, Verstappen and Ricciardo, who had fiercely fought each other in the Grand Prix of Azerbaijan, had already been told a few times by their engineers to slow down. "I do not want to blame anyone. They are both guilty, and it is the team that is the victim of it. "
How long before RIC announces he is going to another team? :wink:

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