Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by cplchanb » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm

sigh....how hard is it for the FIA to be clear and concise and just say at no time can there be any obstruction within 'X'm radius from the camera.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by santos » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:45 pm

cplchanb wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm
sigh....how hard is it for the FIA to be clear and concise and just say at no time can there be any obstruction within 'X'm radius from the camera.
Well... that is not on the rules.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by langwadt » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:46 pm

santos wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:45 pm
cplchanb wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm
sigh....how hard is it for the FIA to be clear and concise and just say at no time can there be any obstruction within 'X'm radius from the camera.
Well... that is not on the rules.
21.4 During the entire Event, no screen, cover or other obstruction which in any way obscures any part of a car will be allowed at any time in the paddock, garages, pit lane or grid, unless it is clear any such covers are needed solely for mechanical reasons, which could, for example, include protecting against fire.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Big Tea » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:46 pm

cplchanb wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm
sigh....how hard is it for the FIA to be clear and concise and just say at no time can there be any obstruction within 'X'm radius from the camera.
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by subcritical71 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:47 pm

cplchanb wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm
sigh....how hard is it for the FIA to be clear and concise and just say at no time can there be any obstruction within 'X'm radius from the camera.
I'd agree, but then what happens if the steering wheel is within that radius... then you need to back out of that radius, which allows a gap and therefore a method of obscuring..... I don't see how you close that loophole unless you say, I'll determine if your obstructing and if you are corrective action will be taken by you without delay. Draconian, I know, but there is already an obstruction rule in the sporting regs that no one pays attention to.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by santos » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:52 pm

langwadt wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:46 pm
santos wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:45 pm
cplchanb wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm
sigh....how hard is it for the FIA to be clear and concise and just say at no time can there be any obstruction within 'X'm radius from the camera.
Well... that is not on the rules.
21.4 During the entire Event, no screen, cover or other obstruction which in any way obscures any part of a car will be allowed at any time in the paddock, garages, pit lane or grid, unless it is clear any such covers are needed solely for mechanical reasons, which could, for example, include protecting against fire.

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That doesn't say a minimum distance… and i think that rule, is for not using screens like they do in testing.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Big Mangalhit » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:05 pm

M840TR wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:02 am
Mclaren style endplates among Singpore upgrades.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm9WnaVWwAAEOG_.jpg:large
Interesting that this new endplates will be banned in 2019. Meaning they did this upgrade for 7 races. Quite impressive no?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by cplchanb » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:10 pm

Big Mangalhit wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:05 pm
M840TR wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:02 am
Mclaren style endplates among Singpore upgrades.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm9WnaVWwAAEOG_.jpg:large
Interesting that this new endplates will be banned in 2019. Meaning they did this upgrade for 7 races. Quite impressive no?

well when one is in the thick of the wcc battle they will invest everything for the smallest gains ie: 2008. Lets just hope that they dont scuttle 2019 because of that (then again as a merc fan i would welcome that 8) )

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by siskue2005 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:13 pm

Better picture
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by subcritical71 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:17 pm

siskue2005 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:13 pm
Better picture
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm99RTgXsAAC7fK.jpg
At least they used two of those extra legs (one on each side) instead of just the one on the side of the camera. I’m sure they are needed for balance of the apparatus...

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Morteza » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:28 pm

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by SiLo » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:58 pm

Forgot they had that pseudo double deck diffuser. Anyone else running anything similar?
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by MtthsMlw » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:14 pm

SiLo wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:58 pm
Forgot they had that pseudo double deck diffuser. Anyone else running anything similar?
No it's unique to the sf71h.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by NathanOlder » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:08 am

F1Krof wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:34 pm

... I mean you have to say this is pretty stupid. You can see the steering wheel from the onboard.

https://snag.gy/7jP1tL.jpg
Its the onboard they are blocking at the start up / installation process.

I think the days of doing something to take the attention away from something else have passed. Everyone thinks of that now, So I dont think thats the case. Other teams and the media still go over the rest of the car with a fine-tooth comb.

Why do Ferrari do this ? They can't be sitting there laughing about it all, they are currently on the verge of losing yet another championship. If they design new cooling ducts ect just to play games, its time being wasted when they could/should be putting 100% in to performance. So in my opinion they are probably hiding something, something that gives them performance.
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by F1Krof » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:37 am

NathanOlder wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:08 am
F1Krof wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:34 pm

... I mean you have to say this is pretty stupid. You can see the steering wheel from the onboard.

https://snag.gy/7jP1tL.jpg
Its the onboard they are blocking at the start up / installation process.

I think the days of doing something to take the attention away from something else have passed. Everyone thinks of that now, So I dont think thats the case. Other teams and the media still go over the rest of the car with a fine-tooth comb.

Why do Ferrari do this ? They can't be sitting there laughing about it all, they are currently on the verge of losing yet another championship. If they design new cooling ducts ect just to play games, its time being wasted when they could/should be putting 100% in to performance. So in my opinion they are probably hiding something, something that gives them performance.
It's much simpler than that. The cooling mechanism was to be brought in Singapore, just like Merc did. Probably they had something similar already designed, what they did was just change the angle of the inlets, which for a skilled machinist/designer its a piece of cake. And yeah, I still think they're trolling.
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