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henry wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 22:18


When I generated a power curve for the Ferrari at Singapore, using data helpfully extracted from video by @mudflap, I found the power peak at around 11200rpm. Roughly mid way between 10500 and the shift pointvat 11800.
I'd be interested in hearing how you did that.

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diffuser wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 20:59
henry wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 22:18


When I generated a power curve for the Ferrari at Singapore, using data helpfully extracted from video by @mudflap, I found the power peak at around 11200rpm. Roughly mid way between 10500 and the shift pointvat 11800.
I'd be interested in hearing how you did that.
This post viewtopic.php?p=749600#p749600 deals with parameters and a little basic methodology. You might need to go back a few posts for additional data and first arrest.If you’re really interested PM me and I can go into more detail.
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Interesting quote from Sainz about the Renault engine:
Asked if, with the benefit of hindsight, Renault would have been better off taking the C-spec engine as its third power unit, Sainz responded: “If it comes without reliability, no.

“The team is fully sure that with our fuel it is just not reliable enough, so I fully back the team with whatever decision they take.
So BP still needs to catch-up on the anti-knock front. This is probably a major reason why Renault has struggled so much with their engine relative to Merc and Ferrari.

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M840TR wrote:
09 Oct 2018, 13:18
Interesting quote from Sainz about the Renault engine:
Asked if, with the benefit of hindsight, Renault would have been better off taking the C-spec engine as its third power unit, Sainz responded: “If it comes without reliability, no.

“The team is fully sure that with our fuel it is just not reliable enough, so I fully back the team with whatever decision they take.
So BP still needs to catch-up on the anti-knock front. This is probably a major reason why Renault has struggled so much with their engine relative to Merc and Ferrari.
You think they're working with Petrobras? Considering McLaren will be Renault's only customer next year, one would hope they form a stronger alliance.
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godlameroso wrote:
09 Oct 2018, 15:43
M840TR wrote:
09 Oct 2018, 13:18
Interesting quote from Sainz about the Renault engine:
Asked if, with the benefit of hindsight, Renault would have been better off taking the C-spec engine as its third power unit, Sainz responded: “If it comes without reliability, no.

“The team is fully sure that with our fuel it is just not reliable enough, so I fully back the team with whatever decision they take.
So BP still needs to catch-up on the anti-knock front. This is probably a major reason why Renault has struggled so much with their engine relative to Merc and Ferrari.
You think they're working with Petrobras? Considering McLaren will be Renault's only customer next year, one would hope they form a stronger alliance.
Petrobras probably have their own separate program. Engine collaboration is unlikely to be extended to fuel.

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Vertical fairings removed from nose.

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At least they’re trailing ideas. Maybe after it fell off in Austria they saw gains in the data😂

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:-) they tested this area twice during gps with meassure equipment, the interesting part will be if they ditch this nosecone concept completely for next year

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Renault introducing completely new engine in 2019
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... e/3196859/

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f1rules wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 08:43
:-) they tested this area twice during gps with meassure equipment, the interesting part will be if they ditch this nosecone concept completely for next year
Those sensors were for ride height measurement. Probably seeing how much the front wing stalls in corners. Strake vortexes and y250 will be an area of focus in 2019 given absence of other outwash elements like cascades.

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charliesmithhd wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 11:16
Renault introducing completely new engine in 2019
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... e/3196859/
As long as it's reliable...

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charliesmithhd wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 11:16
Renault introducing completely new engine in 2019
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... e/3196859/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/reve ... 38/847738/

"Renault is working on an all-new engine for Formula 1 2017"

How it can be Mercedes can keep developing its concept year after year, and Renault finds limits of its own one in just 2 years? :)

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noname wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 13:58
charliesmithhd wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 11:16
Renault introducing completely new engine in 2019
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... e/3196859/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/reve ... 38/847738/

"Renault is working on an all-new engine for Formula 1 2017"

How it can be Mercedes can keep developing its concept year after year, and Renault finds limits of its own one in just 2 years? :)
Merc changed their's for 2018.

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