Wynters wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:41 pm
DutchDopey wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:35 pm
Hamilton was 2 seconds behind Max. Ocon came in between them a little closer to Max than Ham, you do the math. So you are just making things up...
As I pointed out, I'm basing my comments on the video that was linked earlier in the thread so you can actually see where I'm taking my reference from.
Wynters wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:14 pm
What was the gap to Max when he exited the pits (which was after the second DRS zone so Max had most of a lap to pull away at '2-3 seconds a lap')? It's difficult to tell using the video but I believe it was more than a second at the end of S2 of that first lap. However, it's probably irrelevant...
What am I making up?
Could you please link the evidence that confirms what you are saying and that invalidates my supposition? It would be very useful as we could then use it as a basis to confirm your position that Verstappen was '2-3 seconds faster' on that lap. The gap to Hamilton from Verstappen was almost exactly 2 seconds at the start of lap 42 but can you show where Ocon slotted in between Max and Lewis? This is especially important because Ocon doesn't rejoin until almost the end of S1 and, whilst the gap fluctuates, Hamilton lost over half a second to Verstappen by the end of this lap. It's also worth bearing in mind that even if Ocon comes out within a second of Verstappen, he doesn't get DRS until into Sector 3 when he must still
be within a second. There is no "DRS advantage" to gain "immediately".
Based on the FOM feed to Sky during the race:-
At the start of lap 42: Hamilton was +2.0 to Max and Ocon was only +19.5 behind tenth (when he exited the pits and was picked up by the timing screen).
At the start of lap 43: Hamilton was +2.5 to Max and Ocon was only +18.4 behind tenth.
At the start of lap 44: Hamilton was +2.8 to Max and Ocon was only +17.0 behind tenth.
Hamilton's time has no relevance by lap 44 but I've included it for completeness.
I said Max was 2-3 seconds faster in the laps (look plural) before the incident and 0.5-1 second after the incident, for describing the complete race and the unnecessary action of Ocon. As I explained in the comments before, during the rounds after Ocon pitstop the times were different because of the DRS gains and the pushing of Ocon (which would hurt his overall race).
The DRS gains I am talking about apply of course only to the DRS part. When Ocon comes out of the pit in that magical window between Max and Ham
he immediately after turn 13 got DRS. I can see his DRS getting enabled in the replay data in the app. So there was no gap coming out of the pits like you said.