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desl wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 10:11
MtthsMlw wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 09:31
Just_a_fan wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 09:26
Why is the front wing banned?
Because when looking from the side you can see the FW flaps and you should only be able to see the end plate.
What about the Williams front wing?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz2kgdYWwAAoWBr.jpg:large
Yep, they've been forced to modify their end plates as well.

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zibby43 wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 10:15
desl wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 10:11
MtthsMlw wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 09:31


Because when looking from the side you can see the FW flaps and you should only be able to see the end plate.
What about the Williams front wing?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz2kgdYWwAAoWBr.jpg:large
Yep, they've been forced to modify their end plates as well.
Red bull too has changed their front wing, theirs was the same as merc and williams.

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All the millions on development and so many people working on car design and they miss something so simple that means the new wing is not even legal? Very poor from Merc there #-o

On a brighter note, at least they seem up there with Ferrari this race in practice so far.

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djones wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 10:52
All the millions on development and so many people working on car design and they miss something so simple that means the new wing is not even legal? Very poor from Merc there #-o

On a brighter note, at least they seem up there with Ferrari this race in practice so far.
with that FW... 8)
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djones wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 10:52
All the millions on development and so many people working on car design and they miss something so simple that means the new wing is not even legal? Very poor from Merc there #-o

On a brighter note, at least they seem up there with Ferrari this race in practice so far.
I don't think they missed this. They were likely trying to see how far they can get away with that concept. They probably have a back-up plan if the wing was flagged as illegal.

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e30ernest wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 11:09
djones wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 10:52
All the millions on development and so many people working on car design and they miss something so simple that means the new wing is not even legal? Very poor from Merc there #-o

On a brighter note, at least they seem up there with Ferrari this race in practice so far.
I don't think they missed this. They were likely trying to see how far they can get away with that concept. They probably have a back-up plan if the wing was flagged as illegal.
Interesting that they might try this as the rules this year specify self scrutineering. How are penalties handled if a random check spots this after the team has declared the car legal? Doesn’t seem like much too me. Which may lead to some shady self scrutineering in the future (not just for the Merc, but F1 as a whole)
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djones wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 10:52
All the millions on development and so many people working on car design and they miss something so simple that means the new wing is not even legal? Very poor from Merc there #-o

On a brighter note, at least they seem up there with Ferrari this race in practice so far.
How is that very poor from Merc? Both Red Bull and Williams have ran such end plates in Australia and Bahrain.
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Do the endplates have to be vertical? Could they angle them outwards to create similar outwash but with a shorter chord length?
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SiLo wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 11:47
Do the endplates have to be vertical? Could they angle them outwards to create similar outwash but with a shorter chord length?
Yes they do

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I wonder if they are allowed to have a serrations/splitters on top endplate (both vertically and horizontally) on the cut-out part of it in order to create little vortexes (or maybe a stronger one) hence bigger outwash effect ...
Those serrations could be something like RB`s has on the middle flap FW ...
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Just watching FP2 highlights and it seems that they were running with this new FW. When was it declared illegal and why didn't they ran older spec? If that's not the case then ignore the post :D

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djones wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 10:52
All the millions on development and so many people working on car design and they miss something so simple that means the new wing is not even legal? Very poor from Merc there #-o
It’s only been deemed illegal since a week when the FIA issued a new technical directive/clarification (possibly in regards to Williams and RedBull using it before).
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From what I have read, the changes have nothing to do with flaps, and everything to do with the shape of the leading edge. I'd add I don't see anything in the technical FIA documents for the weekend requiring a change, thus I think some of the press are jumping to conclusions.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/04/12/why ... g-designs/
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dans79 wrote:
12 Apr 2019, 14:45
From what I have read, the changes have nothing to do with flaps, and everything to do with the shape of the leading edge. I'd add I don't see anything in the technical FIA documents for the weekend requiring a change, thus I think some of the press are jumping to conclusions.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/04/12/why ... g-designs/
It's hard to see how that rule was 'missed'. But that should be an easy fix and not have much of an impact, if any, on their weekend.

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Seems to me a combination of the new mainplane/flaps with a modified endplate is what Mercedes is running.

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