Mercedes W11

[mkay]

New RW for this weekend, as expected.

[PlatinumZealot]

As clear as mud.

[Morteza]

[ispano6]

The discussion of where those horns originated, who refined the design, who copied it, etc has been continued in the team thread by at least one user:
viewtopic.php?p=923333#p923333
I post the link here so people can find it.

To me is borderline whether that discussion belongs in the car thread or in the team thread (but that post definitively belonged in the team thread, so thanks for placing it there in the first place), so feel free to continue here or there. In any case, now it is easier to find the fork.

This happens in the RedBull and Honda threads all the time with Mercedes fans taking over those threads with Mercedes content. My post was simply to highlight the personnel responsible for the car development are largely still there according to Stoffel and to refute what someone else said that was clearly not factual. End of topic from me.

[Morteza]

[holeindalip]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg_pE1uWsAA ... ame=medium

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg

That rear wing is dang near flat, maybe the lowest df package I’ve ever seen from them...

[zibby43]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg_pE1uWsAA ... ame=medium

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg

That rear wing is dang near flat, maybe the lowest df package I’ve ever seen from them...

I'm anxious to see the FW and whether they've trimmed some surface area off the flaps for this weekend, too.

[zibby43]

I love it when we manage to get this rear 3/4 view of the bargeboards in these lightning conditions:



via AMuS

And one RW direct comparison:



via lukalukaluka

[holeindalip]

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/V ... 720478.jpg

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/L ... 720763.jpg

I love it when we manage to get this rear 3/4 view of the bargeboards in these lightning conditions:

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/L ... 720767.jpg

via AMuS

And one RW direct comparison:

https://i.imgur.com/9WrHM66.jpeg

via lukalukaluka

Definitely shedding df on the front wing, looks like the whole top chord is laying down alot

[zibby43]

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/V ... 720478.jpg

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/L ... 720763.jpg

I love it when we manage to get this rear 3/4 view of the bargeboards in these lightning conditions:

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/L ... 720767.jpg

via AMuS

And one RW direct comparison:

https://i.imgur.com/9WrHM66.jpeg

via lukalukaluka

Definitely shedding df on the front wing, looks like the whole top chord is laying down alot

100% agree. I was about to edit my post to add that comment in, but you already nailed it. Surface area reduction on the uppermost chord to help balance out the low-downforce package up front.

[OO7]

During one of the practice sessions and also on Lewis' qualifying lap, I noticed a few of occasions where the car while at the exit phase of a corner (increasing throttle application), would vibrate and sound as if it had run over a typical serrated kerb.

It can be see and heard in the following video at 0:22, 0:35 and 1:00. I would if it has anything to do with tyre pressures?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6vBU-YNK0

Standing waves?
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pire ... 5/3042659/

Sorry for the late reply Juzh. I think you may be right. Les Combe at Spa is a right-left-right set of corners. The same vibration can be seen on Hamilton's Pole lap through the left part of Les Combe.

[Just_a_fan]

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/V ... 720478.jpg

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/L ... 720763.jpg

I love it when we manage to get this rear 3/4 view of the bargeboards in these lightning conditions:

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/L ... 720767.jpg

via AMuS

And one RW direct comparison:

https://i.imgur.com/9WrHM66.jpeg

via lukalukaluka

Definitely shedding df on the front wing, looks like the whole top chord is laying down alot

Remembering also that the front wing affects the rest of the car. Reducing the front wing doesn't just take off front down force, it reduces down force from the whole car. Powerful, the front wing is.

[OO7]

I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned, but another of the upgrades brought to the Spa race weekend, was a new fairing for the central support strut of the Halo. In profile view the new fairing is curved, whereas the old version was straight.

Spanish GP:


Belgian GP:



Mercedes also trialled a couple of different cooling solutions on the car (none were new AFAIK):


The top arrangement first seen at Spa, appears on first glance to be less elegant and more bulky than the older style which was almost identical (looking at the rear), but with the ducting placed lower along the flanks of the car. I think the purpose of the new arrangement, rather than purely cooling, may have been designed to allow a greater mass flow of air through the coke bottle region.

[zibby43]

Remembering also that the front wing affects the rest of the car. Reducing the front wing doesn't just take off front down force, it reduces down force from the whole car. Powerful, the front wing is.

I'd love to see the effects of various FWs analyzed/visualized. Would be fascinating.

I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned, but another of the upgrades brought to the Spa race weekend, was a new fairing for the central support strut of the Halo. In profile view the new fairing is curved, whereas the old version was straight.

Spanish GP:
https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... g/1052.jpg

Belgian GP:
https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... ug/399.jpg


Mercedes also trialled a couple of different cooling solutions on the car (none were new AFAIK):
https://i.imgur.com/TKKC0lo.png
https://i.imgur.com/kmN6H1B.png
The top arrangement first seen at Spa, appears on first glance to be less elegant and more bulky than the older style which was almost identical (looking at the rear), but with the ducting placed lower along the flanks of the car. I think the purpose of the new arrangement, rather than purely cooling, may have been designed to allow a greater mass flow of air through the coke bottle region.

OO7 with the eagle eye, as usual.

Great spots.

[Wass85]

I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned, but another of the upgrades brought to the Spa race weekend, was a new fairing for the central support strut of the Halo. In profile view the new fairing is curved, whereas the old version was straight.

Spanish GP:
https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... g/1052.jpg

Belgian GP:
https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... ug/399.jpg


Mercedes also trialled a couple of different cooling solutions on the car (none were new AFAIK):
https://i.imgur.com/TKKC0lo.png
https://i.imgur.com/kmN6H1B.png
The top arrangement first seen at Spa, appears on first glance to be less elegant and more bulky than the older style which was almost identical (looking at the rear), but with the ducting placed lower along the flanks of the car. I think the purpose of the new arrangement, rather than purely cooling, may have been designed to allow a greater mass flow of air through the coke bottle region.

Are my eyes deceiving me or is the halo strut now much much wider than at Spa?