Ferrari 150° Italia

[RabMcH]

why the heck is the car crammed like this?


Renault has less room to work with and they still have less electronics under the sidepods.
Ferrari need to update their electronics inventory. The electronics packaging efficiency is important.

Will that not require larger side pod openings as more cooling will be required for the awkward way all the electronics are packed in?

[timbo]

Renault has less room to work with and they still have less electronics under the sidepods.
Ferrari need to update their electronics inventory. The electronics packaging efficiency is important.

Well, you really have no idea what and how is packed on both cars without blueprints and schematics? Me neither.
Anyway, both teams use MM, so U don't think there would be radical difference.

[TheRMVR]

Aldo Costa on when Ferrari expects to have the windtunnel fixed. Sounds quite alarming to me.

"We investigated in the Toyota wind tunnel, so we have the possibility to compare the three different environments [the two tunnels plus the track] - and also a fourth because there is the CFD as well.

"I think we have done quite good progress in that understanding, and I hope by September or October we will achieve a very, very good point in terms of correlation of tunnel and track."

"We are continuously improving the wind tunnel and there is action to come in the next few months. The last few actions will be in order to put definitely to bed this issue, and they will be September/October."

via www.autosport.com

[fians4k]

Aldo Costa on when Ferrari expects to have the windtunnel fixed. Sounds quite alarming to me.

"We investigated in the Toyota wind tunnel, so we have the possibility to compare the three different environments [the two tunnels plus the track] - and also a fourth because there is the CFD as well.

"I think we have done quite good progress in that understanding, and I hope by September or October we will achieve a very, very good point in terms of correlation of tunnel and track."

"We are continuously improving the wind tunnel and there is action to come in the next few months. The last few actions will be in order to put definitely to bed this issue, and they will be September/October."

via http://www.autosport.com

Really? September/October? So we should start thinking in 2012 right now, this year championships are already lost?

[delsando]

Ferrari definitively struggles with balance with low-fuel, other than that has good race pace beginning and middle of the race.

[HampusA]

I think it was more the Prime tire that was the issue. They matched RBR on options.

[TheRMVR]

I think it was more the Prime tire that was the issue. They matched RBR on options.

I believe Webber had a fresh set and Alonso went out on used ones, not sure though.

Ferrari seems to have a mighty race-pace not far off the RedBulls. Its funny that some people said just yesterday that they were the 4th team on the grid with Renault closing in.

I still believe that Ferrari have an absolute great car with enormous potential. They just have some problems to sort out but in my opinion if anyone is capable of stopping those Bulls its going to be Ferrari.

[timbo]

Really? September/October? So we should start thinking in 2012 right now, this year championships are already lost?

Seems they are using Toyota's tube for now.

[HampusA]

Agree, did not know about the tires being old which could explain the run made by Webber even though it was apparent that the car works extremely well on all types of tires.

Yea i remember those comments
The car is good, they just need to fix their problems and the race wins will come.
Last year it was the same story, Alonso did an awsome job in the latter part of the season hauling in 75 points.

Race pace has always been very good, i firmly believe that if Alonso started 2nd and managed to hold on to Vettel the race would have ended a bit differently.

And during preseason testing, the Ferrari and RBR were the cars that looked the best through corners and generally very stable cars.

[kalinka]

I think with Ferrari the situation is not that simple. It seems to me ( I'd say gut feeling, no more ) that in Turkey all the circumstances got their way, and the car performs well in these conditions, but I'm far from sure that their pace applies to other tracks too. It seems that the car works well in somewhat colder conditions, and probably has a quite narrow margin where it works well. If I remember at race start the air was only 15-16C and track temp was 32-33C. Also RBR works better in these conditions, but McLaren likes hotter, and they screw up their strategy and start too...The F150 reminds me on the MP4-25 which was known to had a very narrow setup nad condition margin too.
But I agree, that the car is far from screwed up, though the wind tunnel problems doesn't promise too much upgrade potential ....yet.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

Ferrari have this pace since Melbourne.

[kalinka]

Ferrari have this pace since Melbourne.

If they had it since, they wouldn't complain at all.

[donskar]

The F150 isn't there yet, but it is on the way. Now we do have something to look forward to.

[n_anirudh]

[Pierce89]

I think with Ferrari the situation is not that simple. It seems to me ( I'd say gut feeling, no more ) that in Turkey all the circumstances got their way, and the car performs well in these conditions, but I'm far from sure that their pace applies to other tracks too. It seems that the car works well in somewhat colder conditions, and probably has a quite narrow margin where it works well. If I remember at race start the air was only 15-16C and track temp was 32-33C. Also RBR works better in these conditions, but McLaren likes hotter, and they screw up their strategy and start too...The F150 reminds me on the MP4-25 which was known to had a very narrow setup nad condition margin too.
But I agree, that the car is far from screwed up, though the wind tunnel problems doesn't promise too much upgrade potential ....yet.

Malaysia is hot as balls and Alonso had mighty pace there also. In Australia the cold weather was supposedly the problem, so I don't think the cold helped them here after it hurt them in Melbourne. They are supposedly extra gentle on the tires, which theoretically means hot weather would favor them more than cold.