Ferrari 150° Italia

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Diesel wrote:Sure.

JET forgot to properly sauce his post, always remember peeps, sauce your post....
Tomato or brown sauce? :lol:

Thanks for the sources guys.

Bit of a howler by Ferrari. Certainly won't improve the mood in Maranello.

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From what I understand the appearance of this 'gurney' is something to do with a loophole in the rule defining a minimum distance between slot gap separators... Although, that might have been completely scrambled by the media. Hopefully Scarbs will produce a drawing explaining all =]

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Diesel wrote:From what I understand the appearance of this 'gurney' is something to do with a loophole in the rule defining a minimum distance between slot gap separators... Although, that might have been completely scrambled by the media. Hopefully Scarbs will produce a drawing explaining all =]
Charlie Whiting has stated that it is a clever interpretation of the rule, and he will discuss with Ferrari. No doubt thatt if it is found to be an advantage, it will be disallowed. That would be normal for FIA.
But if it is within the rule, it will have to be allowed until the rule is "clarified".

n_anirudh
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Also notice the new profile on the beam wing

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n smikle wrote:This is either an ejector, or a shockwave suppressor, even a silencer!
Francesc wrote:Image
It is an aspirator I highly assume, as demonstrated by Hammond f.e. here from 04:50 onwards, getting more air through the exhaust, and as a side-effect more airflow through the side-pod/radiator(?).

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n_anirudh wrote:Image

Also notice the new profile on the beam wing
As I read the rule, Ferrari is claiming that this is not a gurney, it is not a flap, but it is a support for their movable flap. It seems to fit the description laid down in the rules, but doesn't seem to do much supporting.

Pretty clever move, but I suspect due to be shot down tomorrow morning.

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P34 wrote:
n smikle wrote:This is either an ejector, or a shockwave suppressor, even a silencer!
Francesc wrote:Image
It is an aspirator I highly assume, as demonstrated by Hammond f.e. here from 04:50 onwards, getting more air through the exhaust, and as a side-effect more airflow through the side-pod/radiator(?).

Thats exactly what im talking about and im 100% sure thats what they are doing with that device.

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Looks like it increases exhuast massflow as well, which should help increase the effect of the diffuser blowing.
For Sure!!

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Seems like such a system must have some performance loss due to such short pipes.

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amouzouris
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looks like the wing is legal! read it on Scarbs Twitter!

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Scarbs has now posted diagrams and an explanation. What I'm struggling to understand is how the support is only considered to curve in the horizontal plane – surely the two corners in it that extend it over the top of the wing aren't in the relevant plane.

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scarbs says ferrari have been told they cant run it

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Mchamilton wrote:scarbs says ferrari have been told they cant run it
Scarbs says he thought they could run it but that andrew bensons says they can't.

Richard
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Just said on FP3 commentary that Ferrari are running the Turkey wing, the new one is illegal.

It was 30mm too high. Ferrari said those high gurney flaps are merely slot gap separators, not part of the wing plane.
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