Ferrari F138

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Lurk
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Sensor. You can see another one on the right endplate above the "Santander" white stripe, and the wire that comes back on the internal side.

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heho07 wrote:Can anyone answer my questions:
1-Why and how air inside red rectangular goes outside as i show them with red arrows.
2-How circle like shape appear on the floor?is it where exhaust gas hit the floor?
3-Why blue arrows start from red rectangular?
Thanks.

Sorry for my bad English.

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To me it is very interesting the more marked oil line near the blue arrow on the right. Its bow shape seems to suggest that there is a big stagnation just downstream - the stagnation induced by the presence of the exhaust stream tube I suppose.
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Sorry if this has already been posted, but did anyone else notice a big inlet under the F138's nose when Pedro was driving?

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amouzouris
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Indeed i think there is...
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hairy_scotsman wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted, but did anyone else notice a big inlet under the F138's nose when Pedro was driving?

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Very good spotting Hairy, You can clearly see a VHS tape width hole about 30mm high. Could possibly be feeding a future DDRS device...or a new cooling inlet?
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Seems like something they've added to the underside of the chassis. The black part seems thicker. See the distance between the white stripe and the bottom.

I don't think that they would add such a huge opening in such a sensitive area if not to increase performance. I would say it's not just for cooling

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Cooling would be the safest bet. It's hard to imagine anything elese :?
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They were gathering data for the simultator. Can it be a sensor? Cooling in that area? And mess with the air that's going to the T-tray? Odd!

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amouzouris
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The whole of Ferrari's KERS unit is located in a box under the fuel tank..it could be for KERS cooling

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Ted Kravitz said that Masa was complaining about cokpit getting hot

go to 10:10min

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infy
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Its probably just a short-term solution to help with cooling. They will probably move it to a less sensitive area when back at the factory.

miguelalvesreis
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Making a solution only for the last day? And so big? Odd!!

What's the shoe number of Pedro de la Rosa?

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It doesn't look like a short-term solution to me, but it seems odd to go to such lengths to increase the volume of air under the nose only to harvest a good portion of it for driver cooling while risking flow separation in a critical area. Don't get me wrong, a cooked driver is just as problematic an issue as a cooked gearbox. The RB8 letterbox on top of the nose helped cool drivers while making the effective frontal cross section somewhat smaller compared to the higher F138 nose.

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i don't think it is for cooling (letterbox on RB8 wasn't for cooling either I think), I think it is for routing a high amount of air through the cockpit for aero purpose. (Lotus had also a huge hole under the nose in 2012 to feed air into the bulkhead).
There has to be a large opening in the Ferrari bulkhead, so I guess it was very well planned to have this kind of gaping duct under the nose.
(maybe it is only for KERS cooling but I don' think so)
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