Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by CLKGTR » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:16 pm

dren wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:44 am
Still running the cooling exit by the driver. The rear wing is the flat version.
I think they might stick to that vertical sinusoidal cooling opening behind the halo because it allows them to run tighter bodywork at the rear, which is more critial for aero performance.

Rear wing really does look like it has flat mainplane, but on picture bellow it looks raised in the centre, like used in Melbourne.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by ScrewCaptain27 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:23 pm

Disassembled brake cooling ducts (AMuS):
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Morteza » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:18 am

Mercedes comparing different rearwing specs in FP1
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Vanja #66 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:53 am

Low drag wing also has bigger DRS flap and no G-flap (yet?), unlike Ferrari's.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by DiogoBrand » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:00 am

CLKGTR wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:16 pm
dren wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:44 am
Still running the cooling exit by the driver. The rear wing is the flat version.
I think they might stick to that vertical sinusoidal cooling opening behind the halo because it allows them to run tighter bodywork at the rear, which is more critial for aero performance.

Rear wing really does look like it has flat mainplane, but on picture bellow it looks raised in the centre, like used in Melbourne.

https://imgr2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/M ... 157986.jpg
It's amazing how compact everything is. Even the inside components are really streamlined.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by DiogoBrand » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:01 am

Fulcrum wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:40 am
Maybe this should be in the team thread.

Tommy Hilfiger sponsors the Mercedes F1 team, but not Williams. Considering Lawrence Stroll's relationship with TH, is this some kind of quid pro quo for Lance and/or Williams?
It should.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Thunder » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:24 am

DiogoBrand wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:01 am
It should.
And it has been moved there. :)
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by zibby43 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:32 am

Another shot of the "spoon" rear wing, via Albert Fabrega:


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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Morteza » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:19 pm

Vortex generators for the rear wing
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Sierra117 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:05 am

Need we say more for how poor the Mercedes is performing? Ferrari sure improved leaps and bounds, but one would think the Merc is actually getting worse lel.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by ScrewCaptain27 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:07 am

Sierra117 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:05 am
Need we say more for how poor the Mercedes is performing? Ferrari sure improved leaps and bounds, but one would think the Merc is actually getting worse lel.
Could be that the car is simply maxed out and there is no more performance to be found from this concept.
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by MtthsMlw » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:19 am

ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:07 am
Sierra117 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:05 am
Need we say more for how poor the Mercedes is performing? Ferrari sure improved leaps and bounds, but one would think the Merc is actually getting worse lel.
Could be that the car is simply maxed out and there is no more performance to be found from this concept.
I think it makes the most sense what ferrari has done, high rake and long wheelbase. This concept has the most room for improvement since you're combining the best of both worlds. Btw this is the wrong thread for this.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Sierra117 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:23 am

ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:07 am
Sierra117 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:05 am
Need we say more for how poor the Mercedes is performing? Ferrari sure improved leaps and bounds, but one would think the Merc is actually getting worse lel.
Could be that the car is simply maxed out and there is no more performance to be found from this concept.
But this is the concept Ferrari adopted to find so many of their gains; e.g. They lengthened the car. Maybe the oblique front suspension Merc introduced isn't so good as we saw front tyre grip being lost throughout the sessions today :/

Still, disappointing if the engine has seen no real improvement compared to Ferrari. The running thought is tyres hampering PU power but it could just be clear cut that it's not as powerful. Half a second gap is seriously worrying.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Vanja #66 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 am

MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:19 am
I think it makes the most sense what ferrari has done, high rake and long wheelbase.
Those two are important, but not the determining factor. Merc will, I am 100% sure, raise their rear end more and more throughout this year and will gain performance while doing it. Even with that, they won't be able to get the same amount of air to the rear end as Ferrari or Red Bull because of their (I think we can already say it) outdated side pod concept.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Sierra117 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:16 am

Vanja #66 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 am
MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:19 am
I think it makes the most sense what ferrari has done, high rake and long wheelbase.
Those two are important, but not the determining factor. Merc will, I am 100% sure, raise their rear end more and more throughout this year and will gain performance while doing it. Even with that, they won't be able to get the same amount of air to the rear end as Ferrari or Red Bull because of their (I think we can already say it) outdated side pod concept.
Is there a post you could link where one could read about how the different sidepod implementations work? Sidepods is the one area I need to learn more about.