Ferrari 150° Italia

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amouzouris wrote:Does anyone know what updates they are taking to Spain?
some super secret bits.....

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bot6
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Looks like some kind of pump. Either a turbine (which would be completely and utterly illegal, movable aero and all) or more likely just using the speed of the exhaust flow to pump in even more air into the exhaust. And into the sidepods.

Indeed, it's a very very smart idea. But I have a feeling it's going to get outlawed soon... If it doesn't destroy the engine first.

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bot6 wrote:Looks like some kind of pump. Either a turbine (which would be completely and utterly illegal, movable aero and all) or more likely just using the speed of the exhaust flow to pump in even more air into the exhaust. And into the sidepods.

Indeed, it's a very very smart idea. But I have a feeling it's going to get outlawed soon... If it doesn't destroy the engine first.
i dont think it would hurt the engine but if will most certainly put it under sub optimum conditions. You wouldnt be able to tune an exhaust to give good back pressure at theres a hole in the system. also at certain RPM there could be such a volume to air being sucked in that either it cant get out the back along with the exhaust gases and causes the engine to "choke" as such. It could be a reason why the ferrari sounded so different on the overrun in turkey practice, if they were using it that is.

i think worse case senario is that vital parts get sucked in or if a bit of residual fuel burns in the exhaust (which happens alot) that the flame back drafts up and into the sidepods cooking wires, tubes...burning stuff!

And on that note.......if this is a ventury tunnel.....and if this is going to be fantastically effective.....and full throttle over run is banned......this would be terrible! it would cause more harm than good. FERRARI now has a reason to keep power off the throttle legal...Jean Todt used to work at ferrari...Its happening AGAIN!

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This is either an ejector, or a shockwave suppressor, even a silencer!
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walter
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n smikle wrote:This is either an ejector, or a shockwave suppressor, even a silencer!
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very interesting. perhaps the high flow exhaust gasses would suck some of the "cooler" engine bay air for a slight reduction of exhaust tube temperature. There's been a few teams that have been struggling with the temps in this EBD configuration. Perhaps this is is just the amount of cooling needed.

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Agree that its a venturi for improved cooling when car is stationary. Not sure what the overall effect is on EBD, though. Certainly would be moving more air through the exhaust pipes, but relative to exhaust flow I don't know if its significant.

Wonder if it could be made efficient enough to move ALL radiator exhaust through. Huge airflow through the pipes as result. All hot air dumped out through the exhaust pipes.

Alternately, why not extend the bodywork closer to the EBD exit, and truncate the exhaust just inside of said bodywork, and create your venturi that way. All exhaust & radiator exit flow would be mixed and dumped approximately at the EBD entrance area.

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Formula None wrote:
Wonder if it could be made efficient enough to move ALL radiator exhaust through. Huge airflow through the pipes as result. All hot air dumped out through the exhaust pipes.

Alternately, why not extend the bodywork closer to the EBD exit, and truncate the exhaust just inside of said bodywork, and create your venturi that way. All exhaust & radiator exit flow would be mixed and dumped approximately at the EBD entrance area.
an "EBEBAE"- exhaust blown engine bay air extractor!

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Looks like a valve to me. I read an article in which was said that McLaren struggled to make the exhaust gases stream from the round pipe into the flat pipe. On the test bench one of their exhaust configs exploded.
Or its a device that supports the flow from the round to the flat pipe.

And they have a new, slimmer gearbox, and a new narrower exhaust.
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amouzouris
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has anyone else also seen the rear wing extending to the diffuser on Alonso's car??


imightbewrong
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scarlet
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Is Alonso running a different rear wing in FP2? Seems to have a much larger indent at the top at first glance...

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yes, i think so, because the DRS was wide open, more than before

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You can see the new exhaust here. They have curved it out more and then pointed the exit in towards the middle of the floor.
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