Lotus E21 Renault

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korzeniow
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by korzeniow » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:57 pm

More importantly on this picture the splitter is uncovered.

You can see that the splitter pipe has something inside, maybe it's a screw maybe it's a wire...

There is channel going under the driver's seat, maybe it's for the interlinked suspension?
It's been a long time since we drove last time, but it has also been a short time at the same time
Roam Grosjean ponders the passing of time on the first day of testing at Jerez
February 5, 2013

korzeniow
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by korzeniow » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:58 pm

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It's been a long time since we drove last time, but it has also been a short time at the same time
Roam Grosjean ponders the passing of time on the first day of testing at Jerez
February 5, 2013

MarkedOne8
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by MarkedOne8 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:13 am

The right side of the front wing looks like legit wing from 2009. The whole cascade was torn. That piece on the nosecone must have created many crazy vortices.
Fernando Alonso is the best pay-to-drive driver in F1 with the biggest amount of money behind him.
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by Reckoner » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:41 am

korzeniow wrote:More importantly on this picture the splitter is uncovered.

You can see that the splitter pipe has something inside, maybe it's a screw maybe it's a wire...

There is channel going under the driver's seat, maybe it's for the interlinked suspension?
Ah i see you have spotted the TMD (Tray Manouver Device)

What that is actually for:- As lotus like to race with v soft suspension and are in danger of wearing out the legality plank on the front of the tray, they use this simple Hydraulic actuator to "Pull" the front of it up to prevent it from wearing past the legal marks.

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by ptw » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:52 am

Reckoner wrote: Ah i see you have spotted the TMD (Tray Manouver Device)

What that is actually for:- As lotus like to race with v soft suspension and are in danger of wearing out the legality plank on the front of the tray, they use this simple Hydraulic actuator to "Pull" the front of it up to prevent it from wearing past the legal marks.

Simple

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wow!
didn't know bending the floor is legal in F1.
does Charlie know about that?

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by beelsebob » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:12 am

ptw wrote:
Reckoner wrote: Ah i see you have spotted the TMD (Tray Manouver Device)

What that is actually for:- As lotus like to race with v soft suspension and are in danger of wearing out the legality plank on the front of the tray, they use this simple Hydraulic actuator to "Pull" the front of it up to prevent it from wearing past the legal marks.

Simple

Recks
wow!
didn't know bending the floor is legal in F1.
does Charlie know about that?
It's not legal, and I'm pretty sure Reckoner is being facetious – at least I hope he is.

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by stefan_ » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:52 pm

What’s in the Bahrain goodie bag?
James Allison: We won’t be bringing anything particularly revolutionary on top of the China upgrades, but we will trial a suspension modification – internal rather than to the wishbones – which is an evolution of something we ran to good effect during pre-season. You’re always trying to find the right compromise between the mechanical grip that the suspension’s articulation offers to the tyres and holding the aerodynamic platform at the optimum height from the road, and we believe this is a step forward in helping us achieve that.

When could we see the DDRS making an appearance?
James Allison: Not for this race as we still have work to do with it. We’ll be trialling the DDRS again between the first round of flyaways and the start of the European season when we have an opportunity to do some straight line testing.
I quoted only what is relevant for this thread. The rest of the interview with James Allison can be found here
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by korzeniow » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:37 pm

So, they will be working on FRIC
It's been a long time since we drove last time, but it has also been a short time at the same time
Roam Grosjean ponders the passing of time on the first day of testing at Jerez
February 5, 2013

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by Gridlock » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:11 pm

The Kravitz stated during China the hollow bib support cools electronics, presumably whatever unit it was the Lotus mechanic was filmed removing at Sepang. How that works I have no idea.
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by stefan_ » Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:32 am

Bahrain 2013 - Thursday (18.04.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by ptw » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:20 pm

beelsebob wrote: It's not legal, and I'm pretty sure Reckoner is being facetious – at least I hope he is.
Just wanted to keep the coversation alive, while there are not many news))))
Thought, my sentence about Charlie was a clear indication of that.

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by stefan_ » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:20 pm

Bahrain 2013 - Thursday (18.04.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by BoBee » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:21 pm

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Lot ... 677176.jpg

Looks Kimis influence :lol: but what is Grosjean going to say than :cry:

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by stefan_ » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:52 pm

Bahrain 2013 - Thursday (18.04.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Post by korzeniow » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:16 am

f1talks.pl ‏@f1talks
Grosjean is making some measurements with aero sensor mounted on the rear of his car - pic.twitter.com/Efkz8O3y7c #F1

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https://twitter.com/f1talks/status/325144913333321728

So, since Romain is testing the aero, then Kimi must be testing FIRC

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It's been a long time since we drove last time, but it has also been a short time at the same time
Roam Grosjean ponders the passing of time on the first day of testing at Jerez
February 5, 2013